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good evening everyone. it is 10:00 on the east coast and a full night of news to tell you about. u.s. law enforcement has to a new suspect in the killing of four americans in benghazi, libya. also tonight the scheme that claim to help veterans. it looks like a scam. we'll tell you where it happened and now. plus 62 seconds, that's how long jodi arias had after taking these photos of her boyfriend for him to attack her, her to kill him and flee.
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62 seconds. hear her answer when confronted with that. and if you think you're watching a sky diver plummeting to his death, that's what his partner thought at the time. he lived. he joins us to tell us what it's like when you think you're about to live. we begin with breaking news. new details on a suspect in the benghazi attack. we know libyan authorities have picked up this man faraj al-shibli. he's the only known suspect being held in connection with the terrorist attack that claimed four american lives including the ambassador to libya. we know what the fbi justice department have not commented on. their role with the regard to the suspect. fran joins us now. what did you learn? >> anderson, this guy that was taken into libyan custody on the eve of the prime minister -- the libyan prime minister who met with the president just this
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week. the fbi was given direct access. that's a huge thing. as the prmts is preparing to meet with president obama, they decided to permit the fbi under libyan supervision while shibli was in custody to put questions to him. >> was he just captured? do we know? >> it appears from my libyan source that the individual had been in libyan custody not for a prolonged period of time, but they wanted their chance to question him themselves. after some period of time, it may have been brief. but after some period of time they gave him direct access. >> how much do we know about his involvement that he may have had? >> not clear. so the libya source i spoke to was very clear to me. this was all the subject of the investigation. the interviews being put to him. they don't know whether or not he was present or directly
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involved on the attack in the benghazi conflict. and they want to know how he participanted in the plansing. >> does that mean they are physically in the room? >> that's right. that's not a given in a foreign country. once an individual is in the custody of a foreign law enforcement service, you can request direct access. sometimes it's granted, sometimes it's not. but it's important for the fbi's assess manime assessment of the individual to watch you and put the questions to you. >> is it known what group he belongs to or may be affiliated with? >> it is known from the investigation thus far he's got contacts with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. known he's got contacts in pakistan. he is sort of an al qaeda-type known personality in eastern libya and in the region. so it would make sense. of course it's really important and from a law enforcement sense with four dead americans to try very carefully and deliberately put the pieces together so you understand his role.
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and by the way, who else can he identify? can he direct him to other physical evidence. >> does it surprise you it's taken this long? >> these kind of investigations overseas where you don't control the environment are particularly challenging. remember, we reported here that it took the fbi weeks to get the security situation sufficiently undercontrol that they could get to the benghazi conflict. that's an indication why this is to complicated. i think it's a real testament. around the time secretary clinton was testifying in january, fbi director muller it was reported that he had gone and met with the libyans to encourage and try to push them for additional cooperation. seems like it's paying off. >> fran, appreciate the reporting. thank you very much. we should also say fran is a member of the advisory committee. she visited with mcandrew and forbes. now keeping them honest. a massive action to authorities
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with an illegal gambling operation. it suckered people into convenience casinos with the lure of helping american's combat veterans. if you've been following our reporting on other schemes, it looks like only a tiny fraction of the hundreds of millions of gambling proceeds actually went to vets. 57 people have been charged in half a dozen states. most significantly in florida where it triggered the resignation of a politician. >> you've got these internet cafes. you'd rent space and play on the internet. that's not what was going to happen here. it was actually sit down at a computer and start gambling. that these were actually internet gambling halls. all consolidated under the umbrella of the allied veterans of the world. giving the illusion this was a veterans charity when according
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to florida, the years it was operated this group netted $290 million and gave $6 million to charity. that is just 2%. >> allied veterans of the world, they say they ar a veterans organization. instead through a three-year investigation we've revealed a sophisticated criminal network designed purely for personal profit. it is and was a fraud with little benefit to veterans. >> you've done so much reporting on charity scams. particularly ones that use veterans. this sounds like another as a hook to bring in donations in business. >> absolutely. and as we found in all of our charity reporting, it's the veterans label group that gets the most donations, anderson. gets the most sympathy from the american public. when you look at what they do for vets, they are some of the worst. many getting "f" ratings.
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and that's what's so appalling to florida officials. they were buying ferraris and boats with this money. the attorney general and the governor went on camera yesterday and said this alleged ring was using that sympathy for veterans to run this gambling ring. they called it appalling. >> it is shameful that allied veterans of the world allegedly attempted to use the guise of a charitable organization to help veterans and lend credibility to their $300 million scheme. >> i want any funds from these groups to be immediately given to charity. i have zero tolerance for this kind of criminal activity. period. >> what's crazy about it, the lieutenant governor in florida was actually doing ads for this charity. take a look at this from a few years ago when she was representative -- state representative. she sounds like she's endorsing
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this group. >> as a veteran who served during the gulf war, i know how hard it is to be from family. >> that is crazy. i talked with the florida department of law enforcement today. and they're talking about investigating further what the political connections were with this group. allied veterans, they spent more than $400,000 lobbying in the state of florida. put tens of thousands of dollars in the pocket of campaign coffers. carol has resigned over this. she was questioned in the investigation and she consulted for this group allied veterans of the world for a couple of years. 2009 to 2010 while she was that state representative. as of this point, anderson, no one is saying that she's part of this. she's not part of the 57 charged in this. but certainly it is an embarrassing moment and she has
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now resigned as lieutenant governor of florida over this. >> she was consulting and not know anything? this apparently has been going on for a long time. how did they get away with it? it seems so obvious these were gambling halls. >> yeah. it was so obvious that that's where the initial tip came in a couple years ago. a guy, a veteran walked in looking for help and looked at what was going on. he came back out and told authorities this is a gambling hall. i don't know what you guys are doing. but apparently they don't like the word gambling. they use the word gaming. and that was according to the police part of the seem. although you would allegedly go and sit down at an internet computer and gamble on games, the staff would call it gaming. you wouldn't cash in chips, you'd redeem points. but according to the charges, these were strictly gambling halls, casinos really. points were money. they weren't playing call of duty. these were casino games going on.
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>> again, you've done such great reporting on this the last couple months. it's infuriating. we appreciate the update. let me know what you think on twitter. up next, what a different a new pontiff makes. it's not the only way the figure is getting down to earth today. we'll look at that as well as troubling allegations from his past in argentina. and later, the man who fell to earth lived to tell about it. literally. how things went wrong for this man and how he amazingly survived. [ kitt ] you know what's impressive? a talking car. but i'll tell you what impresses me. a talking train. this ge locomotive can tell you exactly where it is, what it's carrying, while using less fuel. delivering whatever the world needs, when it needs it.
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welcome back. last night at this time i was in rome. i spent several hours in st. peter's square along with over 150,000 people witnessing history. it was of course an extraordinary moment for many in rome and watching around the
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world. for pope francis today it was time to get down to business and he did it in a way that no other pope ever has. pope francis returned to the sistine chapel on his first day as pontiff to deliver his historic first sermon. catholics around the world searched for meaning in his words. >> translator: if you don't build on stone bases then what happens? what happens to children on the beach? they build sand castles. it all falls down. >> lasting just over seven minutes and spoken in italian, his homily was widely interpreted to be a calling for the church to move forward, to settle past controversies. pope francis was known to live a humble life in argentina and since assuming the chair of st. peter, it's indicated that will continue. >> he's supposed to go up these steps on to a platform and sit
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on a white throne and we're supposed to come to him and kneel in front of him to give him our love and loyalty. he just said no, i'm going to stay down here, greet each of my brothers. that's a powerful sign. >> after addressing his flock for the first time, he refused to ride in the car prepared for him. instead, riding the bus with other cardinals. at his first dinner as pope, the vatican says he toasted the cardinals and showed his self-deprecating sense of humor, joking about his election, quote, may god forgive you for what you've done. but questions are beginning to merge about his past. in the 1970s, he was head of the jesuits in argentina as the military junta kidnapped tortured and killed thousands of dissidents. he withdrew his protection from two fellow jesuit priests, giving the green light for their abduction. he flatly and repeatedly denied the charge. for those hoping for a pope more
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liberal than his predecessor, he's against abortion and clashed with his own country's endorsement of same sex marriage and free contraception. defenders say pope francis has long been a champion of the poor and his record backs that. >> we lived in a situation of poverty, scandalous poverty, from the lack of jobs or the diseases that massively affect us, and that hit the hardest because of the lack of justice. >> the world's 1.2 billion catholics will look to their new pope to champion the church and lead it out of turmoil and into the future. the new pope's back story is fascinating. the challenges facing him, daunting, to say the least. the time he has at age 76 to deal with them, by the actuarial numbers, limited. joining us, father thomas rosicka and senior vatican analyst, john allen. who's also senior correspondent for the catholic reporter. father, it's been a remarkable
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start for the new pope. there's a lot of coverage talking about him taking the bus, his stopping by to pick up his luggage, paying his hotel bill. do you see this as a new era? >> it's different, let's put it this way. he's taking charge and he's continuing what he did in buenos aires. he was used to doing things by himself, very simply, and that's just continuing here, except it's probably upsetting people here a little bit more than usual, especially this morning's famous stop, he told the driver let's just stop by and pick up my luggage, then going in to pay his bill. he also thanked the help in the house. he thanked the housekeepers and everything else. he's a very thoughtful person. >> john allen, is there a substance here? is there meaning in this new style, the vehicle he rides in, the style of vestments he wears? you can say these are small things when compared to making decisions on church teachings, the way the church is run. do you think there's a message here?
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>> well, look, anderson, the plain fact of the matter is that popes teach not only with their words but also with their deeds, with their gestures. i mean, you're right, these are small things at the very outset of the pontificate but he's setting a tone. in addition to the things you mentioned, i was also struck by the fact that when the cardinals were leaving, the papal limousine was ready for the new pope to hop in and separate himself from the crowd. instead of doing that he decided to get on the bus with the fellows and ride with the other cardinals which we would call a gesture of collegiality. that is, the pope is not above the other cardinals and other bishops of the church, but he is one of them. you know, i think all of this is about setting a tone. we have to see how it plays out in the concrete acts of management and governance this pope has to take. but at the beginning, i think most catholics looking at this
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would say this is a very promising start. >> but certainly, john, when it comes to doctrinal issues or controversial issues, abortion, contraception, same sex marriage, things that the pope, there's no indication the pope is anywhere taking a new direction on any of those issues. >> no. listen, my experience of interviewing catholic bishops across the developing world and of course, pope francis comes from the developing world, from argentina, is that by western standards, by the standards you and i are familiar with, anderson, it's sort of counterintuitive mix of conservative on some things and liberal on others. when it comes to the hot button issues of the cultural wars in the west, particularly sexual morality, things like gay marriage, abortion, contraception, you're going to find bishops in the developing world, including the new pope, to be quite conservative. but on a whole laundry list of other things, social justice questions such as concern for the poor, war and peace, the environment, fairness in international relations, on those kind of issues, they're going to profile as very liberal. i think you will find that to be true of this pope.
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>> when a new u.s. president takes office, a new staff comes with him and they flip the switch, there's major change which happens fast or at least tries to happen fast, executive orders, new cabinet officials. how does it work at the vatican? there has been talk in the past 24 hours about pope francis possibly shaking up the church bureaucracy but how does it actually start and when would actually somebody see any kind of actual change? >> very good question. i don't think we would operate in the same way as the government in the white house or prime minister in britain or whatever. but the pope does bring in certain people with him, people with whom he's worked, he's felt comfortable with, and there are also some key positions that are opening in their normal course. so one of the key positions we're all watching for is who is the person that will be assigned to be secretary of state, sort of like the prime minister. the pope is the pastor reaching out to the world and somebody has to run the operation home to make sure there's proper
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communication, so that position, secretary of state, cardinal bertoni is past the age, has submitted his resignation. that's one of the appointments to watch for. it will come about not next week, but that's high on the agenda. also in the household or circle of the pope, he'll have to bring in his personal assistants, secretaries. for example, who will be the group of people that will look after him in the house. pope benedict had a wonderful group, four women. pope john paul ii had sisters. who will pope francis bring in. those are the kind of things, they'll happen in the next little while because he has to unpack, get used to a whole new way of life and in a sense this is public living now. no matter how private you want to be, everything will be looked after but the difference is, this guy's got his own will. i don't think he's going to let
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the system or the structure dictate to him. >> fascinating day. father, thank you so much as always, john allen as well. thanks. up next, the jodi arias murder trial. the defense put an expert on the stand today to help explain arias' memory loss. how convincing was he? randi kaye was in the courtroom. later, a sky diver's parachute fails. the backup parachute does as well. >> in the air i knew i was going at a speed that i was not probably going to survive. con, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'.
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crime and punishment, the jodi arias murder trial, she's accused of shooting ex-boyfriend travis alexander, stabbing him. slitting his throat. if found guilty, she could be sentenced to death. today the defense relied on expert testimony. more on that in a moment. arias herself spent 18 days on the stand, testifying she
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doesn't remember much of the attack, which she calls self-defense. the prosecution calls it premeditated murder. her testimony ended in a face-off with the prosecutor. here's randi kaye in phoenix. >> please stand for the jury. >> reporter: on her final day on the stand, jodi arias was schooled in mathematics. do the math, the prosecutor attempted to show. her story doesn't add up. >> at some point in your life, you've worn watches, right? you know about time. you know movement takes time, don't you? >> reporter: martinez says arias would simply not have had enough time given the evidence to first go searching for the knife she used to stab travis alexander nearly 30 times and slit his throat. he says she must have had the knife with her in the bathroom when she was taking these digital pictures of a naked alexander in the shower. >> it would have taken time to actually look for it, wouldn't it? >> i guess under that theory. >> sure under that theory. it would take time, right? >> yeah, i guess.
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>> reporter: to prove his theory of premeditation, the prosecutor showed these two photographs, taken just 62 seconds apart, according to their time stamps. arias says this accidental photo of the ceiling was taken after she dropped alexander's camera, when he was still alive. that's when she says he lunged at her. >> in the 62 seconds between that photograph and exhibit 162, you are body slammed, you get away, you get the gun, you shoot him, and then after you're able to get away, you go get the knife and he ends up at the end of the hallway, all in 62 seconds. that's what you're telling us? >> no, that's not what i'm saying. >> reporter: regardless of what arias is saying, the photo time stamps say something else. in this second photo taken just over a minute later, arias' foot
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is seen next to alexander's bleeding body in the bathroom. by now, he's been stabbed and shot. with just 62 seconds between the photos, would it have been enough time to support arias' scenario that a chase and a struggle occurred? more than a month into her trial, on her 18th day on the stand, jodi arias offered a brand new scenario for how the knife came into play. listen to this. >> you needed to go get that knife at that point, correct? >> no, it's possible travis grabbed the knife first. >> you never told us that he had any knife there, did you? >> no. i wasn't asked. >> reporter: jury members also had questions for arias about the knife. seems they, too, were trying to make sense of her changing stories. >> you said you remember putting the knife in the dishwasher after killing travis, but you also say you don't remember anything after dropping the knife on the bathroom tile. which is correct? >> i have a vague memory of
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putting a knife in the dishwasher. i'm just not sure if that's the memory from june 4th. >> reporter: and there were more questions about the gun arias used to kill alexander. was it in a holster or not when she said she grabbed it out of alexander's closet? just last week she told the jury she believes the gun had been in a holster. now suddenly, she's not so sure. and this is key, because the state believes she brought a gun with her to kill alexander and never really grabbed the gun from alexander's closet. arias seemed to get tripped up again on this question about whether or not the gun was loaded. >> did you tell the jury when you were talking about the attack in response to one of their questions that you believed the gun was unloaded? do you remember saying that? yes or no. that's all i'm asking. yes or no. do you remember saying that? >> i don't know. >> reporter: after that, the prosecutor let her have it. >> what were you going to do with the gun, throw it at him? >> for once even jodi arias
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seemed too flustered to respond. randi kaye, cnn. >> randi joins me live from -- jeff, the prosecutor made a lot of this 62 seconds that the crime would have perhaps been committed in. saying it was impossible. why was that such an important point? >> it's the key to her whole story. she had an idea of how this unfolded. and the photographs are weirdly -- that's one of the weirdest things about this case. they are is time stamped version of how the case unfolded. her version does not seem to make any sense. i thought martinez was so effective today. how she could have done that in 62 seconds. >> mark geragos, what do you think of the memory loss? i want to play some of what he
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said for viewers that didn't watch it. >> those who suffer from stress producing trauma will not frequently recall what happened for a certain period starting at the beginning of the trauma until sometime thereafter which could be measured in hours or days or weeks. >> mark, what do you think of how he did? >> it's something i see in practice all the time. >> you said this would happen. >> yeah. this is exactly what you expect. that this was -- when we're trying to analyze her testimony before we've heard the expert testimony it doesn't quite make sense. whence you see it in context, now you understand the narrative the defense has been telling. >> i thought this dr. samuels was one of the best expert witnesses i ever saw. >> really? >> i thought he was clear, conversational. now, it may be total hocu
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hocus pocus. if they're looking for a reason not to give her the death penalty, i thought it was effective. >> they know he -- i assume he's being paid by the defense. he's supposed to be impartial but they must take that into account. >> one of the trends recently in recent years is to get experts who are appointed by the court as opposed to being a defense expert or psychiatric expert for the prosecution. having said that, i think jeff is right, at least so far, every account that i've seen, he seems to have come off extremely well. i think there is a tendency amongst jurors to use the expert in the following fashion. if he says something that you agree with, that kind of resonates with you, i've used that word a lot in this trial, you tend to adopt his argument and that's what you say to others or the argument you make to others when you're in the jury room and you're deliberating.
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in this case, i think if there's anybody there who wants to cut her some slack, that this expert combined with her testimony will certainly give them the ability to do that and argue she shouldn't be put to death. >> he's not saying -- the expert is not saying that she's legally insane. all he's saying is that she has ptsd, she doesn't -- her memory loss is understandable. i find that frankly very hard to believe. but i do think that as mark said, if someone's looking for a reason to cut her a break, he certainly provided it. >> the idea that she couldn't fake memory loss, do you buy it? frankly, her explanation of the memory loss and it seems kind of shifting, i'm not sure how effective it is. >> that certainly is a weak point in her testimony. mark, i'm sorry. go ahead. >> yeah, i was going to say the same thing as jeff. i've seen people feign memory loss, not just defendants, i've seen cops frequently feign memory loss whenever you catch them. so i'm not so sure that it has
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to be ptsd or anything else. i think sometimes people conveniently lose memory when they get cornered. >> the problem here is also that her memory loss is so convenient. it's always the incriminating stuff she remembers and the exculpatory -- i'm sorry, incriminating stuff she forgets and the exculpatory stuff she remembers. >> the expert had a pretty good explanation for that today, i think, and what i expected, i think, that basically that is the trauma, the things that are the most traumatic are what will produce this reaction, the psychiatric reaction that will cause somebody to lose memory. >> see, i don't want to get convicted syndrome. >> is that what it is? >> well, that's -- the prosecutors will call it that. the defense will say that it's trauma. >> the prosecution can bring in their own expert who can say, you know, this is contrived, you can try to fake this and she's clearly trying to fake it. >> and that's exactly i think back to your other question, anderson, a lot of times what
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will happen is the psychiatric expert by the prosecution is really good, then a lot of times you'll see jurors just say we'll cancel it out, a pox on both your houses. >> the prosecutor seemed really concerned the defense was trying to get into the jurors' heads with this defense expert. is there a line on this? >> not really. that's why they call them. that's why he's there. again, it's a subtle thing and particularly in a death penalty case. the task of the defense in a death penalty case is very different than in a guilt/innocence case. ptsd might not even be relevant at all if this were simply a case where life imprisonment was at stake but because her mental state and her testimony is so important on the issue of death, it really takes on a much more outsized importance. also, just another reminder of why death penalty cases are so much more expensive than other cases, because you have testimony like this that the state has to pay for.
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welcome back. you never know a man named craig stapleton almost died a few days ago in a heart-stopping skydiving accident. sunday, the master of 7,000 skydiving jumps crash landed. he and his partner were attempting a complex stunt when his parachute failed and his backup parachute failed. he spun uncontrollably through the air, survived without a single broken bone. the question is how is that even possible? earlier today i spoke to stapleton and his jump partner. just looking at the video, it gives me a pit in my stomach. walk us through what happened. when did you realize things were not going as planned? >> when katie and i were flying, things were great. we were just in our little parachutes flying along. as we separated out, when we got to the end of the line and we were supposed to turn down, i went from that line to just boing and it flipped me upside down. i actually flipped up through my
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gear and back down, and right then my parachute started spinning, i was flopping at the end of the line and right then i knew i had a real serious issue. >> how long were you spinning out of control for? >> well, it seemed like most of my life, but it was merely probably 10, 12, 15 seconds where i was really flipping around, didn't have time to communicate to katie that i had an issue. >> what was your last thought before you hit the ground? >> my last thought before i hit the ground was actually to exhale and survive the impact. >> i also heard that you were thinking to yourself that you didn't want to land on some spikes? where were there spikes? >> out where we jump there's a lot of grape stakes, vineyards and they're essentially grape plants with a five foot iron rod and cencertina wire or piano
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wire, whatever, running between all the plants. >> is that a good place to be jumping? >> it's great if you don't land out there. if you fly over it it's awesome. it's very pretty. if you land in it, you better be going down the rows. so i knew -- >> how fast are you traveling at this point? >> i think i was doing about 30 or 35 miles per hour just prior to impact. it's hard to judge from the video. i'm not a great judge. but in the air i knew i was going at a speed that i was not probably going to survive. >> did you think this is it, i'm going to get killed? >> i thought early on in the dive i was going to die. once i had a serious malfunction with the main and the slide was still attached to me and i couldn't get a lot of problems solved, i felt this was it, this is how i was going to die. >> what goes through your mind when you think that? >> well, i was really sad for my wife and kids. i really was sorry that i had screwed up and left them alone
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and really sorry for the things i was going to miss out in the future. i was really sorry for the people on the jump. i knew it was going to affect them, and for the people around me, it was going to be really hard. but that's also why i wasn't going to give up. >> you came close to one of the stakes, didn't you? >> absolutely. a couple feet. >> a couple -- and did you actually see it? when you were about to land? >> i actually, as i was coming in to land, i remember looking across and i could see all the vineyard disappearing into the distance. it's really pretty, the sun was at a right angle, it was very aesthetic. i remember i was at the right height to look across all those plants and lines, like wow, that's really pretty, i could see the plant going by me and i was like i wonder how far the one is behind me. and the next thing i know, i was on dirt. just thankful to be on dirt. >> katie, as you run over to him, you must have thought the worst. >> oh, i did.
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i was spiraling down, once we separated, i was spiraling down following him, you know, rooting for him to clear all the problems and following him down so i could get to him as fast as i could. i saw him hit and i remember just thinking that's an unsurvivable thing. then i landed on like a little driveway in the vineyard and dropped all my gear and ran over there, and i couldn't believe when i saw him moving. i had to see him move twice to actually believe it, and i just started yelling not to get up in case things were bad. i assumed that they were. and i got over to him and he was talking and trying to pull his gear off and i couldn't believe it. i was so happy. >> how do you feel now? >> i'm a little sore. it takes me a few minutes to get out of bed in the morning. >> i would think so. >> yeah. it's going up and down the stairs, i don't run two or three steps at a time. every day i get better and i feel a few more days, i'll be back doing what i want to do. >> i got to ask this question
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and i'm kind of worried what the answer is going to be, but are you going to skydive again? >> oh, yeah. want to go with me? >> dude, no. sorry. i don't know if you're the luckiest guy or the unluckiest guy. i'm not sure. >> yeah. i plan on jumping again. that's not my last skydive. i don't know what will ever be my last skydive but that's not it. it's important for me to do it again. if all i do is one more, i'm doing one more. >> well -- >> and when i teach students and when i teach people, i always tell them the goal on every skydive is get to the next skydive. >> well, i'm so glad you're okay and getting better every day. thank you so much for talking to us. katie as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> incredible. a lot more happening tonight. we'll update you on the trial of two local football heroes in a rape case that's dividing an ohio town and shocked the country.
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two high school football players are accused of raping a 16-year-old girl last summer. now, much of the case is focused on cell phone pictures of the alleged abuse that were circulated in text messages and on social media. two women who were shot by los angeles police during the man hunt for christopher dorner will get $40,000 for their truck. the truck was similar to what dorner was driving. they are still suffering physically and emotionally. and another carnival cruise gone wrong. the company is flying passengers on the "dream" ship back to florida. the ship's generators failed yesterday while it was docked in the caribbean. all the lights went out. some of the toilets stopped working and no one was allowed onshore. oh, dear. the celebrations over pope francis is still going strong in spanish-speaking countries. it is meaningful in many churches right here in the united states as well. with a number of hispanic
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